IMPROVED the performance of the Hookmark Context window in general.
IMPROVED performance of Hook to New > folder
IMPROVED: We have moved the Export Bookmarks and Import Bookmarks buttons out of General Settings into Gear menu > Advanced. These two commands are also now available from Hookmark’s File menu.
IMPROVED: The Bookmarks window now remembers what tab you last selected.
Seems Hookmark 6.10 is having a hard time with Zotero (Mac). Using Zotero 7.1-beta.41+355c61e6d.
Tried a few different times. Once I saw the Hoomark indicator telling me something has linked, a couple other times no indicator but a “hook” was made, and sometimes no hook at all … it’s as if Hookmark had just stalled.
Working with other things just fine. Specifically I’ll get this message after some time:
The indicator does not work for Zotero because the script for Zotero is UI-based. It is supposed to show a purple question mark. Do you see numbers?
Were you trying to invoke Hookmark on MailMate when you see the error message “MailMate is taking longer than expected…”?
Did you paste into the same APP and get different result? Some APPs show the URL, but some APPs show the title. You can try “Copy As Markdown Link”, then you will get both the URL and the Title.
Sorry for the late reply, but I’m engaged in some international travel right now. Honestly I get the Hookmark beachball of death most of the time. I do not see numbers. I was not trying to invoke Hookmark on Mailmate … it’s just that Hookmark took sooooooooooo long in Zotero that I had already moved over to Mailmate for work.
Zotero has it’s own “hooking” shortcut and I’ll just learn that. I would be happy to have one and only one shortcut to remember for hooking, but currently Hookmark does not play well with Zotero. Using Zotero 7.1-beta.44+057c79820
Yes, I do. The shortcut Shift-command-c works just fine in Zotero. But my usual Hook shortcut of control-H does not work. That leads to the beachball of death, or just nothingness.
Ctrl+H could be used by other APPs.
Can you try a different shortcut or click on Hookmark menu bar icon? You can configue the shortcut in Hookmark Settings window->Shortcuts:
Perhaps, but Ctrl+H works in every other app in which I try to use Hookmark. Only Zotero is the problem. I’m “wired” for control-H at this point, another different shortcut would be counter-productive.
Whatever the stated Updated: Integration with Zotero 7 is supposed to be, I’m not seeing it.
Thanks for the suggestion, but not quite sure what you mean. I’m guessing you mean click on menu bar icon before trying to hook. But if that’s the case I don’t see a way to drag-drop, or other means, to create a Hook link.
If you mean after invoking control-H then there’s no way for me to do that as, essentially, the Hookmark icon is frozen.
Sometimes it will hook, after 1 or 2 minutes, but that’s not a good resolution. But anyways, that’s not always the case. Often it just freezes, later tells me it is having a problem, and asks if I’d like to continue. (Not remembering if this is Hookmark or Mac OS with the message)
Sorry, I forgot the default setting for clicking Hookmark menu bar icon is showing menu bar window like below. You can click on Hookmark icon or “Show bookmark Contextual Window” lable in menu bar window to invoke Hookmark contexual window.
Or put differently, the problem seems to not be with the keyboard shortcut as I get the same experience using the shortcut or using this alternative approach. However, one big difference is the time it takes to say there’s no linkable item … in the non-shortcut approach this message pops up sooner.
If you select a Zotero item, then copy the following script and paste in /Applications/Utilities/Script Editor, click on Run button, what happens?
tell application id "org.zotero.zotero-beta"
activate
end tell
set the clipboard to ""
delay 0.1
tell application "System Events" to tell process id "org.zotero.zotero-beta"
keystroke "c" using {shift down, command down}
delay 0.1
repeat 20 times -- poll clipboard for ~2.5 seconds. Sometimes set x to the clipboard throws exception
try
set markdownLink to the clipboard
if markdownLink is not equal to "" then
exit repeat
end if
end try
delay 0.1
end repeat
end tell
return markdownLink
Yes, that seems to work fine. Tested with 5 different articles and no problems at all!
Yes, I use a clipboard manager named PastePal. Never had a problem/conflict with Hookmark before with other apps but maybe Zotero and PastePal together create a special situation.
Does this help?
In addition, the hooked items seem to be stored in PastePal just fine, but not in my Zotero library of links. (I realize you probably already know this, but wanted to report if this was unusual behavior.)
That was a reasonable guess! Unfortunately, nope I still get the same problem when PastePal is not operating. It seems hooking the first item is easy, but trying a second or third hook gums up the whole system.
Today Zotero came out with a new beta. So I’ll install that and see if there’s a difference.
The new beta is: 7.1-beta.47+b31b71304
The older beta I was using was: 7.1-beta.44+057c79820
Things have changed a bit. First link works fine, second tried link gums things up again. However, what has changed with this new beta is with Hookmark I used to get a result like this:
[Kalyuga. 2023. Evolutionary Perspective on Human Cognitive Architecture in Cognitive Load Theory: a Dynamic, Emerging Principle Approach](zotero://select/items/_ES64WL54)
I realize the problem might have to do with using the beta … but this new version of Zotero is very important so sooner or later Hookmark will need to adapt to it.
But now, only about 30 minutes later, there’s a new new beta. Not sure what changed but it is:
7.1-beta.48+735922a2b
I’m going to have to leave this as is because I’m currently travelling and won’t be able to do any checks for about 2 weeks. All I can really say is Hookmark is clearly funky with Zotero. Don’t know why.
